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What will it take for us to give refugees a fair go? Julian Burnside QC has a few ideas. The barrister (and arts lover and storyteller and much more besides) has been fighting for better treatment for refugees for 15 years. He chatted to us recently about the value of listening to other people, why we should all support living artists and the piece of music that never fails to lift his soul.
This episode was produced by Beth Gibson and Jane Nethercote. Music by Dennis Liu.
“Zero Degrees of Empathy” by Simon Baron Cohen
Oxbridge Blues by Frederic Raphael